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Im now not understanding at all any of the logic of the timetable alterations that Avon have done recently , it seems that every route they have got has been split back up and most interwork with each other in some form or another anyway.

You have the 77 now back to its original route Birkenhead - Heswall , its extension goes back to the 82/82A original route number between Heswall - West Kirby via Caldy .

You have the 83/83A which was original a Birkenhead - West Kirby circular and the route numberage allowed you to know which way round the circle the bus went , this route has changed more times than hot dinners , wish they would stick with one version of it , remember the route 17 extension , which didnt work out .

The 84 and 85 have been split the 84 is now a Raby Mere via Bromborough to Clatterbridge service , the 85 really does bcome the dead beat section of this run now through the fields of Thornton Hough on its route between Clatterbridge and Heswall.

The 86 now only runs between Mill Park and Heswall and the 87 between Eastham Ferry and Heswall , the section beyond Heswall to West Kirby is now in the hands of the 88 which runs between West kirby and Heswall .

I do hope you are keeping up , im really surprised that the other routes that operate havent been changed or does that wait for about another 6 to 8 weeks whilst these bed in.

I know im being critical but some look like changes for changes sake , or is this the start of some routes being withdrawn or handed back to Merseytravel and that only the lucrative parts will be kept .
(05/11/2014 13:38)wirralbus Wrote: [ -> ]Im now not understanding at all any of the logic of the timetable alterations that Avon have done recently , it seems that every route they have got has been split back up and most interwork with each other in some form or another anyway.

You have the 77 now back to its original route Birkenhead - Heswall , its extension goes back to the 82/82A original route number between Heswall - West Kirby via Caldy .

You have the 83/83A which was original a Birkenhead - West Kirby circular and the route numberage allowed you to know which way round the circle the bus went , this route has changed more times than hot dinners , wish they would stick with one version of it , remember the route 17 extension , which didnt work out .

The 84 and 85 have been split the 84 is now a Raby Mere via Bromborough to Clatterbridge service , the 85 really does bcome the dead beat section of this run now through the fields of Thornton Hough on its route between Clatterbridge and Heswall.

The 86 now only runs between Mill Park and Heswall and the 87 between Eastham Ferry and Heswall , the section beyond Heswall to West Kirby is now in the hands of the 88 which runs between West kirby and Heswall .

I do hope you are keeping up , im really surprised that the other routes that operate havent been changed or does that wait for about another 6 to 8 weeks whilst these bed in.

I know im being critical but some look like changes for changes sake , or is this the start of some routes being withdrawn or handed back to Merseytravel and that only the lucrative parts will be kept .

Wouldn't be so bad if it said somewhere that through fares are avaiable.
Don't Avon have day ticket fares or was they only available when they had the Chester services.
Day ticket is £4.30
Looks like another battle for Avon from January. Arriva are starting a new service 63 from Bootle to Fazakerley via Crosby then the 122 route to Fazakerley (replacing the withdrawn 53A and part of the 62)...
New arrival is Caetano KU02YBD, fleet number 302, which is yet to be painted
Marshall T423AGP (923) has been withdrawn
Does anybody know if 139 is still on the road please? I know that it had its MOT a month or two ago, so I don't think that it's due to be/has been withdrawn yet - just haven't seen it on the road lately.

127 has spent time on the 143/144 and 202/204 during the past week!
139 was out on the 83A today
Are Avon Buses commercialising their bus routes in Liverpool?

On the list of service changes on the Merseytravel website, routes 135/235, 144/145 and 202/204 are operated by "Avon Buses" but usually Merseytravel services are operated by "Merseytravel".
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